MSR Hubba Hubba Review |
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Overall avg rating 3.5 of 5 based on 11 reviews. Most recent review: December 26, 2012
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Street Price:
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Pros: Lightweight, easy to pitch, spacious, good-looking.
Cons: Not strong or stable, bad pockets, tiny stakes, no vents.
Best Uses: Lightweight backpacking and camping in shelter areas.
Recommendations: 63% of reviewers (5/8) recommend this product
Manufacturer:
MSR
| Review by: Max Neale ⋅ Review Editor, OutdoorGearLab ⋅ December 26, 2012 |
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Overview
The MSR Hubba Hubba was revolutionary when it was first released, and it sparked a series of integrated hub pole designs, but has since been overshadowed by lighter tents that provide the same amount of space, weigh less, and are stronger. Compared to other tents we tested the Hubba Hubba is weak and ill suited to serious three-season storms. It's best for car camping and occasional backpacking trip in protected areas. This is one of our lowest rated tents.
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OutdoorGearLab Editors' Hands-on Review
Likes
The MSR Hubba Hubba is a simple, midweight, comfortable three-season tent. It was introduced in 2004 and kicked off a wave of "lightweight" two door tents that walk the line between car camping and backpacking tents. Its pole design uses a single pole with two metal hubs and looks like a giant X with a straight section between the two ends and a short cross pole in the middle. This simple single pole design is extremely easy to set up.
With the exception of a small solid nylon top panel (for strength) the tent walls are made entirely of mesh. The floor and fly material is a lightweight yet strong 40-denier ripstop nylon with a 1500mm Durashield polyurethane coating. MSR claims that this coating last up to four times longer than its predecessor. Two U-shaped doors curve from the top cross pole down to finish parallel to the ground. Inside, 29 sq. feet of floor space, 17.5 sq. feet of vestibule area, near vertical walls, and a 40 peak height give two people plenty of space for sleeping and hanging out. There are two mesh pockets, one on each end of the tent.
 The MSR Hubba Hubba after a dusting of snow. Maple Canyon, Utah. Credit: Max Neale Dislikes
Although the Hubba Hubba is a well-designed, versatile, and attractive tent, it has a series of drawbacks that, when taken in aggregate, significantly reduce its functionality. First and foremost, the tent is not strong. Only the lower portion of the tent ends remains stable in wind. The top and sides catch wind and push the tent in very far. In several storms our testers had to sit up and support the tent with their arms to prevent it from breaking. The Hubba Hubba lacks adequate guy points; there are only two and both are on the ends of the tent. This leaves the entire middle and upper area unsupported. A lack of stability restricts the Hubba Hubba to well-protected areas, but even then its less storm worthy that all other tents tested here, excepting MSR's Carbon Reflex 2.
The Hubba Hubba weighs 4.5 pounds, which is heavy compared to the other tents we've tested. Today, 2.25 pounds per person is a lot to carry for a tent. In comparison, the lightest tent tested weighs 1 pound per person and ultralight tents weigh as little as four ounces per person.
Another drawback to the Hubba Hubba is its ventless rainfly. While it's adequate in length around the tents edges, the vestibule is higher off the ground than most other tents tested in this class. Consequently, dirt, sand, and snow are more apt to blow under the vestibule and through the mesh walls. Yes, this is a common problem with all mesh bodied tents, but we found the Hubba Hubba's shorter rainfly to be particularly good at letting the elements enter from below. Although the 2011 model increases the sill height around the ends to prevent splashback (rain entering at an angle and ricocheting into the mesh), we still prefer to see a slightly longer fly. Similarly, the Hubba Hubba's fly lacks vents. While some would argue that vents aren't necessary on a mesh-bodied tent, most other tents tested here have two vents and/or a rainfly that provide both ventilation and rain protection. The Hubba Hubba's straight vestibule zippers cant vent without inserting a pole and then rain will enter the vestibule. A lack of vents and a shorter fly make the Hubba Hubba less storm-proof and less versatile than other tents tested here. This drawback is relatively small compare to the tent's weak pole structure.
Another limitation is the Hubba Hubbas saggy pockets. These span the width of the tents ends, but are not taut. They store headlamps and other small items well, but cant handle heavier items such as a full water bottle or a book.
The Hubba Hubba includes MSR's Needle Stakes. These are lightweight but perform poorly when compared to the dozens of other stakes we've tested, including MSR's Carbon Core stakes. Consider upgrading to one of the stakes on the right side of this photo below.
 Tent stakes,: MSR Cyclone (35g),Toughstake (33g), MSR Snowstake (22g), DAC Y (14g), Easton Nano Nail (9g), DAC V (11g), MSR Mini Groundhog (9g), Hilleberg Tri-peg (8g), Vargo 6.5 Titanium (8g), MSR Carbon Core (5.5g), Easton Full Metal Jacket (5.5g). Credit: Max Neale  The Hubba Hubba's saggy pockets. Two gloves nearly topple out! Credit: Max Neale Best Application
Car camping and luxurious backpacking in sheltered areas.
Value
The Hubba Hubba is a relatively poor value. We plot tent scores and prices in a Price versus Value Chart that illustrates how much bang each tent delivers per dollar.
Other versions and accessories
A $150 Gear Shed creates an extended vestibule (26sq. ft) that clips to the tent body and expands through one door to provide a very large covered space. This feature is useful for car camping and no other tent offers a similar accessory. We've found that this feature drips water where it joins the tent, which can be problematic if it pools and runs into your gear. Even so, this is an innovative accessory that's useful for car camping. Other accessories include a triangular gear loft ($22) and footprint ($55).
 Find the Hubba Hubba and REI Half Dome. Credit: Max Neale
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OutdoorGearLab Member Reviews
Most recent review: December 26, 2012
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
Realist · Climber · Victoria Australia
I used this tent for 6 months non stop living for work in Cameroon, we did a geotechnical survey of a new rail system there and camped the whole time.
There are a good points with the tent, ease to set up, quick, relatively light, plenty of space and waterproof. We had jungle wet season to contend with and I never got wet.
The downfalls are, when the fly is tight (Heat) it is VERY easy to rip, the pole repair kit is poor, pegs are weak and the storage areas sag too much.
Overall I would use it again but it would need some modifications before I bought it.
If you want dry and windproof well worth the money.
Dave
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this product to a friend.
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I purchased this tent about 4 years ago and I really like it. It does the trick for fair weather / 3 season camping. I am very cautious about setting it up in sheltered conditions - I don't exactly trust it to take great care of me in heavy rain or winds and usually supplement it's stability with a tarp or well placed trees. I like the fact that it packs pretty small and is pretty light weight. The carry bag is fairly thin and somewhat junky so I tend to compress it in a dry bag for kayaking, and keep the poles separate.
Overall, the tent has done me well the past few years, given that I keep it's use within it's intended purpose - sheltered light weight camping.
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this product to a friend.
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I've used this tent for countless nights in alpine and desert environments since 2008, and I'd buy it again without hesitation, even though I'd opt for the new model with less bugnetting on the inner tent. Even in heavy rainstorms, I slept well. Sub-freezing temps, cooking in the vestibule, two people with multi-day backpacking gear etc., strong winds in Joshua Tree NP, this tent took it all, and without damage. I've slightly bent one tent peg, and the pole connection right under the rubber thingy at the dome of the tent is slowly cracking, but that's due to abuse on my end. Five stars. Recommended the tent to a friend some years ago who's out canoeing a lot, and he loves it too.
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this product to a friend.
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My Hubba Hubba was one with a faulty rain fly. Due to what MSR calls a bad batch of fabric, the rain fly was about as waterproof as cheese clothe. That can happen. Anyone can make a mistake. The real problem is the response I got from MSR, and REI. Problem number one is that no one made any effort to let customers be aware of the problem. I asked MSR what they did to notify customers of the problem. They told me they did nothing. Not even a posting on their own web site. So I take the thing into a bit of elevation and it rains. I spend the night with my down bag soaking up water and watching the temperature drop. When I get home I google Hubba Hubba rainfly and of course there are all kinds of people who have had the same experience. Nonetheless MSR cannot see its way to include within all its self praised customer service a need to make sure customers know about the problem and do not do what I did. These experts, these industry leading experts in outdoor gear can't see a connection between a non effective rainfly and hypothermia. To make matters worse I go hopping mad over to their warranty office to give them their tent back and the person I am met by says he does not like my tone and tells me to just leave. I guess I am not supposed to be angry at my brush with hypothermia. Everything about my experience makes their self congratulatory web site a joke. I will not patronize a business that puts its own pecuniary interests ahead of my safety. We need to be able to rely upon these products. I bought a shelter, not a a set of drapes.
Bottom Line: No, I would not recommend this product to a friend.
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OutdoorGearLab Member Question:
Thanks for thorough and excellent reviews!
I have read your review of the MSR Hubba Hubba, and fully appreciate the reasons for your not liking it. However, there seems to be no review of any of the newer Hubba HP tents, nor the MSR Hoop or Holler which are similar to the new Hubbas but still available in the US (assuming availability is the reason for not reviewing the them).
It seems that MSR has addressed at least some of the issues you mention, and it would be very interesting to read your updated opinion.
Thanks!
OutdoorGearLab Review Editor Max Neale Responds:
The Hoop and Nook are part of our backpacking tent review update, which should be live within the next month or so. MSR has made some improvements with its newer tents. Stay tuned for the update.
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Phil · Backpacker · Montana
I bought the new version of this tent with improved fly and am very happy with it. I have taken it with me on month long trips in the Beartooth wilderness to weekend fishing trips along Georgias Chattooga river. First unless you pitch it on jagged stone it will not rip, especially if you use a footprint. Second, my hubba hubba has seen some nasty wind, rain and snow without ever being compromised. I'm not sure about the previous version of this tent but mine sheds water like a duck and I usually have it pitched by the time everyone else is still putting their poles together. It's true and tried, which is why I bought it in the first place.
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this product to a friend.
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I own a similar build, but one-person. Pro is how light it is. Neg's include weak/easy to rip fabric, chemical coat on fly has degraded to some kind of sticky, stinking film after a few years.
Wouldn't buy from this mfr again.
Bottom Line: No, I would not recommend this product to a friend.
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bmacd · Climber · 100% Canadian
I broke the poles just joining them together. Fabric has ripped in several places. Leaked like a sieve one night.
But worst of all the fabric is coated with a chemical compound which is now off gassing VOC's of some sort.
Way too fragile a tent and now it's up for sale
Bottom Line: No, I would not recommend this product to a friend.
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0 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
i got mine for about $220 and am really happy with it. its no basecamp tent, but you dont buy it because it is! it packs down into half its sack, or better still- two small drybags and the pole bundled. this tent has also survived some strong winds and horrendous torrential rain in Grindlewald without any problems whatsoever. i love my tent- its even got a name.
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this product to a friend.
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0 of 2 people found the following review helpful:
And Mr. Macnamara needs to read my review. You tell me why anyone should buy products from a high end out door gear supplier when they are so clearly willing to consciously compromise the health and safety of their customers just to avoid the expense or bad press of making sure people know they can't rely upon the product. I have read their web site thoroughly, including their section on the origins of the company, their mind set, their commitment to customer service, blah blah blah. But it seems to me very clear they long ago lost whatever soul the founders may have had. When you put out a rain fly that is known to be water permeable, then say nothing and let customers find out the hard way, its time to start making barbed wire and stop playing with other people's comfort and safety.
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 The 2011 MSR Hubba Hubba. New fabric and a new color. Credit: Max Neale
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