Black Crows Camox Freebird Review
Compare prices at 2 resellers Pros: Stable, damp, predictable
Cons: Mid-weight, no real stand out performance
Manufacturer: Black Crows
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Black Crows Camox Freebird
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|$948.95 at Backcountry||$700 List||$649.95 at Amazon||$699.00 at Amazon|
|Pros||Stable, damp, predictable||Stable, predictable downhill performance in all snow types and terrain||Inexpensive, balanced downhill performance, average weight||Solid all around downhill performance, compatible with excellent Dynafit SpeedSkins||Light and versatile|
|Cons||Mid-weight, no real stand out performance||Heavy||Ski “short”, powder skiing stability suffers at super high speed||Heavier than average||Limited poor snow performance|
|Bottom Line||Good skis for good skiers in all kinds of conditions||A nouveau classic touring ski in a time when the market is moving lighter for the same downhill performance||Great, budget skis for backcountry skiers of all kinds||Touring skis for he or she that prefers downhill performance to uphill efficiency||All around choice for beginner to advanced backcountry skiers on a budget|
|Rating Categories||Black Crows Camox F...||Kastle TX 103||Salomon MTN Explore 95||Dynafit Beast 98||Fischer Hannibal|
|Firm Snow (20%)|
|Crud And Poor Snow (20%)|
|Stability At Speed (15%)|
|Specs||Black Crows Camox F...||Kastle TX 103||Salomon MTN Explore 95||Dynafit Beast 98||Fischer Hannibal|
|Weight Per Pair||6.7 lbs||7.6 lbs||6.8 lbs||6.8 lbs||6.2 lbs|
|Measured Length||182 cm||180 cm||177 cm||183 cm||183 cm|
|Manufacturer Length||183 cm||181 cm||177 cm||184 cm||183 cm|
|Available Lengths||162, 172, 178, 183 cm||165, 173, 181, 189 cm||169, 177, 184 cm||170, 177, 184 cm||162, 169, 176, 183 cm|
|Claimed Dimensions||130/97/115 mm||138/103/120 mm||130 / 95 / 116 mm||136/98/117 mm||126/96/114 mm|
|Measured Dimensions||137/97/117 mm||138/103/120 mm||130/95/116 mm||126/97/116 mm||127/97/113 mm|
|Weight Per Ski grams||1510g, 1509g, average: 1510 g||1727g,1708g, average :1718 g||1547g,1529g, average: 1538 g||1541g, 1553g, average: 1547 g||1421g, 1388g, average: 1405 g|
|Weight Per Pair||3024 g||3435 g||3076 g||3094 g||2809 g|
|Weight Per Surface Area Ratio, g/cm^2||0.71||0.79||0.76||0.75||0.69|
|Construction Type||Semi-cap||Sandwich||Half-cap||Sandwich||Sandwich Cap Hybrid|
|Core Material||Paulownia, poplar||Paulownia,poplar||3D Full Woodcore, C/FX reinforcement||Ash/poplar wood||Paulownia wood with carbon stringers|
|Waist Width||97 mm||103 mm||95 mm||98 mm||97 mm|
|Radius||18 meters||19 meters||18 meters||21 meters||21 meters|
|Rocker/Camber||Tip rocker, camber underfoot||Tip rocker, camber underfoot||Rocker, camber, rocker||Double Ellipse Rocker||Tip rocker|
Our Analysis and Test Results
The Black Crows Camox is an all-around, "daily driver" for human-powered skiing. Black Crows skis are legendary for damp performance, and the Camox is no exception. These track straight and don't chatter. They don't "pop" like some, but they also don't push back in tougher conditions and with lapse in technique. We found them to grip firm on ice and firm snow, and to float just right in powder. Tough snow performance wasn't spectacular, but not poor either. Touring weight is acceptable, right near the top of what we'd consider the range of weights for "all-around" human-powered skis.
We tested 183cm Camox Freebird skis. Left and right skis from a manufacturer often differ a little in weight; remarkably, we found our test pair to be different by only one gram. One weighed 1510g, and the other weighed 1509g. The close tolerances are cool, but no big deal. We've tested skis that differ by much, much more than that, and noticed no issues associated with the difference. The overall weight is right in line with what we consider to be suitable touring skis. For the width and length, 1500g is good but not great. You can get equal or better skiing performance for lower weight.
Fifteen hundred grams puts the Camox in the absolute center of our tested roster. This weight range is tourable but could be better. They ski downhill real well, but our other Editors' Choice does similarly for quite a bit less weight. The flip side of this is that the Camox will be more durable than the lighter Editors' Choice winner. If you are trying to choose between our two Editors' Choice winners, choose this one for durability and value.
Stability at Speed
That slight additional weight helps keep your skis tracking and charging at higher speeds. These skis like to go fast. Don't let our "touring dork" language fool you; we love to go fast too. When skis like this can go fast, we maximize their abilities any chance we get. Whether on the base in deep snow or up on edge on firmer stuff, the Camox could hang with all the speed that is prudent in the wilderness.
Size the Camox down for light and tight, and size them up for high-speed cruising. For our test team, 183cm in the Camox feels long and fast and stable. We can't comment on exactly what they would be like in the next smaller size, but we can speculate that they'd be less stable but quicker in the steeps and better on firm snow.
We found average performance on hard snow with the Camox Freebird. A hand flex test shows them considerably softer than resort groomer skis. They're even softer than some of the budget all-around skis we have tested. One could expect compromised firm snow performance from softer skis. It is harder to "hand flex" for torsional rigidity, but we suspect that that is where the Camox makes up its firm snow performance. In a descent of a slick Teton "Apocalypse Couloir", the Camox grabbed in high consequence terrain under a tester that had taken their possession just the night before.
We wish we could test the next shorter size. We bet that, downsized, the Camox would do firm snow even better. They don't suffer in the tested configuration, but shorter (to a point, of course) is often easier to manage in the steeps.
That soft longitudinal flex seems to come into its own in powder snow. Deep and bottomless, or fast and smooth, powder snow is amazing with the Camox. They'll snap around in short-radius turns or hang with you as you open it up faster. The relatively long size we tested (183cm) floated under even the bigger of our testers. Our experience with shorter skis like this indicates that performance would suffer for our test team at the next size down. Choose your size wisely; for powder, don't be afraid to size these up.
We were glad to observe that the Camox Freebird is capable of both long and short powder turns. Such ski style versatility requires both ski and skier to be adaptable. The Camox seems adaptable, and then some.
Bad snow is a backcountry reality. We wish it weren't, and we all work our tails off, searching out only good to perfect stuff. Nonetheless, you can't get the goods without encountering breakable crust and bottomless slop. When you do, the Camox Freebird will keep up, but doesn't let you relax. The wide shovel surfs up out of late-day spring slop but grabs in the breakable crust of a sunny February afternoon. Slow it down in that breakable crust, stay centered, and be patient. You could do a lot worse than the Camox Freebird in tough snow, but they won't let you forget your timing or route selection error that day.
It is in tough snow that the Camox most impressed us and earned it the Editors Choice award. Late in round two of its testing, we finally got these and some others to one of our best testers. He was able to spend a full week of crusty, south-facing "exercise skiing" alternating between these and other top contenders. His authoritative voice, the tough conditions, and the favorable experiences of the rest of our test team brought the Editors' Choice to the Camox Freebird. They won't make tough snow fun, and you'll have to pay attention the whole time, but they do better in all that then most.
These French sticks aren't cheap, but not prohibitive. At this price range, you can get lighter or higher performance, but perhaps no hotter ski. These are classy, more and more widely available, and have all-around performance that is pretty dang balanced for human-powered skiing. They are quite a bit less expensive than our other Editors' Choice winner but more expensive than the Best Buy.
The Camox Freebird is not Black Crows' most popular ski, but it is the one with the most appealing all-around dimensions. In our testing, their bigger skis seem a little more polished, downhill, than this smaller pair. Their bigger skis, though, are heavier for the dimensions, than average while the Camox is about average, for its dimensions.
— Jediah Porter