This is a big, burly ledge with tons of features. It is very comfy and large, and has lots of cool pockets in which to stash stuff. It is a full size ledge so even tall people can relax in comfort and two people do not feel cramped. For all those features, it is very heavy and not the easiest ledge to set up. It is also expensive.
This portaledge gets five stars for comfort and features but three stars for weight and ease of setup. So overall we give it it four stars. It is an awesome ledge if you don't mind the weight and hassle of setting it up. We have not used the Metolius Bomb Shelter Double Ledge or the Fish Double Ledge so we can't compare them, but both are lighter.
We really prefer the weight and size of the Runout Customs Double Portaledge which has a similar design and weight to the old A5 double ledge. Hopefully Black Diamond will make a smaller version of Cliff Cabana without the spreader bar and pay attention to making it as light as reasonable.
Black Diamond Cliff Cabana Double Portaledge ReviewPrice: $700 List | $524.96 at MooseJaw
Compare prices at 3 resellers Pros: Comfortable, stable, lots of pockets
Cons: Heavy, hard to set up
Our Analysis and Test Results
This Black Diamond Cliff Cabana Double Portaledge has a ton of tricked out features. There is a big central clip-in point at the top, lots of pouches for stashing gear, daisy chains, dividers, and more. The ledge is easy to tighten so it will not sag much. The spreader bar keeps it from bowing out and it is sturdy enough for three people to hang out in without worry of crippling it. Once it is set up you are in heaven. It has a giant surface area for hanging out and sleeping in comfort. No cramped sardine feel here.
The main dislike is how heavy this is. That would be okay if Black Diamond also made a slightly lighter ledge for two people. but they don't. The fact that this is almost 20 pounds compared to an old A5 double that is 11.5 pounds makes it questionable whether you want to bring this on a lot of one and two-night routes. Normally I would recommend people taking a ledge on The Nose or Salathé during peak season so they can bivy where they want and avoid jam-ups at natural ledges. However, this ledge is too heavy for non-overhanging routes where you need to move fast and light. It's fine for really steep routes.
The other main dislike like is how much harder it is to put together than the old A5 Cliff Cabana. The tubes are not as easy to deal with and the spreader bar dangles around and gets in the way. It is quite a challenge for a single person to put it together at a hanging belay. So if you are going to be setting this up solo (which often happens if it is getting dark and your partner is taking forever on the lead), you need to practice a lot before you get to the wall. I've seen Tommy Caldwell set it up in under five minutes when he was working the first free ascent of El Capitan's Mescalito. So it is possible to get it dialed.
One minor dislike is that the bed has big holes at the corners. This means that when you have the Black Diamond Deluxe Cliff Cabana Double Fly, stuff is often falling under the bed where it is hard to get without getting out of the ledge. With the standard rainfly, if a coffee mug finds its way to the edge it will probably sail to the talus.
With any portaledge, you MUST also have a rainfly. Black Diamond offers the Black Diamond Deluxe Cliff Cabana Double Fly ($450).
This is ideal for steep big walls with short approaches like the Southeast Face of El Capitan. On steep walls like that, the ledge's heaviness won't be as big a drag.
This ledge is $50 cheaper than its main competitor, the Metolius Bomb Shelter.
— Chris McNamara
OutdoorGearLab Member Reviews
Most recent review: March 12, 2013
Summary of All Ratings
50% of 2 reviewers recommend it
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50% of 2 reviewers recommend it
Mar 27, 2010 - 01:30am
Diesel_Smoke · ClimberThis ledge is very stout and detailed. From the full strength central tie in, which can go through the fly (eliminating ropes hanging out of the ledge) to the organizing pockets, daisys, etc. The biggest deterrent of this ledge is the weight. Sharing ST's sentiment, I can only justify using this ledge on a steep route with a partner. If you have to share a ledge, this is probably the best choice. FISH's DW feels cramped with two, as is Pika's and A5s. With two people on this ledge there is very limited flexing and with the spreader bar, almost not detectable. This ledge should last for a lifetime with proper care. It can be kind of tricky to setup without any experience with ledges. The corners need to be done in a order, described in the instructions and will make the final piece/corner easier to complete. One person set up is awkward because of its size, but with two its easy enough to erect. FISHs DW is probably a better choice if your usual wall partners have ledges or you solo walls. With FISH's ledge its light enough to be used by one person and would still give the option of taking a partner who lacks a ledge. FISH's ledge does lack BD's level of refinement and stability. Carrying this ledge is hard to justify without someone else to split the weight.
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this product to a friend.
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Mar 12, 2013 - 01:57pm
Diesel_Smoke · ClimberI authored the review below, but I was given some information today from Black Diamond that I found very distressing about their quality of product support. This ledge may not last a lifetime, simply because BD will not sell any parts or pieces to their ledges and will only sell complete ledges. So this ledge is a very 'fragile' purchase in that regard, and made me regret not purchasing a ledge from guys like Russ (FISH Products) in the first place, because to my knowledge he has the most solid product support of any company. Russ takes care of PTPP's ledge very well, and realistically who wants to handle that thing? Sorry Pete, I'm joking. Russ has taken care of all my FISH products well, and has worked on competitors' stuff for me in the past.
Bottom Line: No, I would not recommend this product to a friend.
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